There are now answers to why known arsonist Coatesville firefighter Robert Tracey was put back on the street

Fire Guy (Robert Tracey) discussion between Coatesville City Councilman Eggleston and Ronny Suber at the November 21, 2009 Coatesville City Council meeting:

“We are talking about apples and oranges here. Young black men and justice…vs. Mr. Tracy lighting fires are two different things.” Former Coatesville City Councilperson Marty Eggleston

Young black men being arrested and a white assistant fire chief being arrested for arson are indeed separate issues. But the arson fires of 2008 – 2009 in Coatesville will not be forgotten by anyone who lived through them in Coatesville, PA.

Seven years later there are some answers as to how a known assistant fire chief arsonist can be put back on the street. An arsonist who knows firefighting procedures and that could possibly be one step ahead of those who try to stop his arson. 

I believe the answers to the questions Coatesville residents had on November of 2009 put blood on the hands of Pennsylvania volunteer firefighter organizations and the politicians who support them. 

"Tracey's attorney, Frances Miller of West Chester, said that Tracey had up until the hearing not taken responsibility for the two incidents. But the veteran defense attorney hesitated when asked by reporters after the hearing whether his client actually committed the crimes. 

"My client was facing 40 years in jail, and he's walking out with 242 days of (jail time)," Miller said. "I simply believe it's a just resolution based on the facts that we know, and the strengths and weaknesses of the Commonwealth's case." 

He said his client would return to his family home and start anew. The conviction will prohibit him from working again as a firefighter. "He's going to start rebuilding his life, and start being a father to his children," Miller said after the hearing. 

Tracey was accused of setting two fires the night of March 20 in Coatesville. The first was a porch fire at a home in the 600 block of Madison Street; the second was a garbage can fire in the 100 block of Hope Street, a few blocks from the Madison Street blaze. 

As Ost-Prisco pointed out in the hearing before Sarcione, both of the fires were minor in comparison to the other fires that were set in the city during 2008 and 2009 -- one of which destroyed most of a block of Fleetwood Street and resulted in $15 million in damages.

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 By MICHAEL P. RELLAHAN, Special to the Times 

POSTED: 11/20/09, 12:01 AM EST | UPDATED: ON 11/20/2009

At the City of Coatesville City Council meeting November 21, 2009:

  

Ronny Suber, 

“I’m here because I read in the paper that the fire guy. That he got released from jail.  And a lot of the citizens is very upset about it and they want an explanation about why. How can this happen? 

 One of our people was in their house and crimes that happen in Coatesville, it seems like the young Black males is always gettin penalized with harsh sentences. And this is a fire guy that set a lot of fires and all that’s said now, he is being released from jail and I’m here as a citizen… 

 The truth is the citizens is very concerned with this guy who is released from jail. He was an arson. People was in the houses when he was setting fires and people in the community is real upset about the DA’s decision...  

When it comes to justice, it seems that justice is there for us. And that sending a bad message to the community that you release him out of jail under certain conditions but what happened to the young black people that is arrested for little minor crimes, but this is a terrorist. A guy that set a lot of fires… 

 He should be penalized he should still be in jail without bail. 

 We as citizens. We is concerned with what the DAs thinking. How come this is not an FBI investigation or FBI indictment. Do internal affairs have to come in?...” 

Coatesville City Councilperson Marty Eggleston answers: 

 “I can tell you that no one in this room can tell you what the DA was thinking as far as his decision goes. Whether it be one way or the other. I think all of us have certain individual feelings regarding what we read in the newspaper. You gotta understand one thing, not often does common sense and the law or our own opinion and the law kind of go together… 

 My understanding as an individual person, not as a council member, but as an individual person, I understand that there is a very strong misconception that Mr. Tracey was a sole arsonist who lit most or all of the fires in the City of Coatesville. There is that misconception because I’ve heard it in the street. He has been referred to as ‘the arsonist” on so many different occasions. 

 By his own admission Mr. Tracey was fired from the City of Coatesville,,, he is guilty as sin. 

 There is an exchange between Councilperson Eggleston and Mr. Suber concerning young black men being arrested. 

 Mr. Eggleston, “Your comparison Mr. Suber to… Your comparison to young black men who commit crimes and justice not being served, I’ll be honest with you, I’m a little bit offended… And the reason why I say that is because I have witnessed young black men selling drugs in front of my home… 

 So you want to talk about justice, I have witnessed young black men in my neighborhood in front of my home selling drugs. I have seen those young black men get arrested. And then I’ve seen those same black men back on my block selling drugs again. Now you tell me, Mr. Suber, where’s the justice in that?… 

 We are talking about apples and oranges here... 

Young black men and justice…vs. Mr. Tracy lighting fires are two different things.”

In my view from 7 years later, justice has not been served.

There are now answers to some of those questions about Coatesville Asst. Fire Chief & arsonist Robert Tracy. 

Those answers put blood on the hands of Pennsylvania volunteer firefighter’s organizations. 

They put blood on the hands of politicians who support those volunteer firefighter organizations.

In the seven years since the Coatesville fires nothing regarding the vetting of volunteer firefighters as potential arsonists in Pennsylvania has changed.

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AN AUDIO RECORDING OF THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN RONNY SUBER AND THEN COATESVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MARTY EGGLESTON IS HERE:

The ignorance of right wing extremism in America by the mainstream press is staggering.

A reporter interviewing someone I immediately identify as a neo-Nazi as if he or she is an ordinary middle class person no longer surprises me.

For several years I have advocated reading the SPLC's Hatewatch Blog, Right Wing Watch and ADL's Domestic Extremism & Terrorism blog to plot the future of the Republican Party. 

PBS Newshour produced this story and did not recognize the family that was the subject of their story were obvious white supremacists:

PBS Ignores Trump Voters White Power Tattoos In Sad & Hilarious Epic Media Fail

 

The Jimmy Dore Show

PBS Newshour should view & memorize these symbols. Every law enforcement officer should view & memorize these symbols:

Hate on Display™ HATE SYMBOLS DATABASE

The local establishment press in Chester County, PA does not pick up things that obviously identify people as right wing extremists. 

"Every presidential election, the Chester County Republicans select someone to organize a grassroots effort to help the GOP nominee in Chester County. DiGiorgio said there will not be a formal decision until Trump is confirmed as the GOP nominee, but several sources within the county GOP say Sheriff Carolyn “Bunny” Welsh will likely lead the effort.

When Trump held his rally at West Chester University on April 25, Welsh greeted him in person and had her photo taken with him. She said she helped escort him before and after he delivered his speech.

Welsh has been involved with other campaigns in the past. In November of last year, Welsh attended a private fundraiser for Dr. Ben Carson, a former Republican presidential contender, in Berwyn.

During the 2012 presidential election between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, Welsh supported Romney’s election bid in Chester County. She also was elected as an alternate delegate for the 7th Congressional District in 2012.

Near the end of the reorganization meeting, DiGiorgio talked about local races and stressed the need for Republicans to vote out state Sen. Andy Dinniman D-19, of West Whiteland.

“There is one other blue in our beautiful red county that we need to defeat, he who has no name,” he said.

Following that statement, a picture of Dinniman appeared on screen. Dinniman’s challenger, a body builder by the name of Jack London, then gave a brief speech with music from the “Rocky” movies playing in the background, stressing a need to defeat him in November. London, of Avondale, also has worked in the finance industry."

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Chester County GOP warming up to Trump

By Adam Farence, Daily Local News

POSTED: 05/18/16, 6:22 PM EDT 

Carolyn "Bunny" Welsh is a "Leadership Member" in the extremist Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association:



Chester County Sheriff Carolyn (Bunny) Welsh sent a letter to President Obama saying she would not enforce federal law:

Friday, October 30, 2015

Chester County Sheriff Carolyn Bunny Welsh attended anti-immigrant rally

"Chester County Sheriff Carolyn Bunny Welsh attended the December 2014 anti-immigrant sheriff rally and press conference in Washington, DC organized by Sheriff Thomas Hodgson of Bristol County, MPA":

In the article below there was no mention that Milwaukee County Sheriff. like Chester County, PA Sheriff Carolyn "Bunny" Welsh, is a right wing extremist Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association member:

Milwaukee County Sheriff To Protesters: ‘Stop Trying To Fix The Police, Fix The Ghetto’

David Clarke has repeatedly said there’s a war on police.

by Carimah Townes

Criminal justice reporter at ThinkProgress. 

Sheriff David Clarke was named "Sheriff of the Year" by the CSOPA in 2013. 

"Earlier that same year, Clarke made an appearance on conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ Infowars radio program, during which he contended that any attempt by federal authorities to confiscate guns would inspire “the second coming of an American Revolution, the likes of which would make the first Revolution pale by comparison.”  

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Sheriff David Clarke Plays a Straight-Talking Cop on Cable TV, But His Agenda Springs From Far-Right Extremism 

The handsome black sheriff with the baritone voice is the conservative media's latest darling, but his background and the beliefs he espouses are deeply disturbing. 

by David Neiwert October 30, 2015

In my little town a small group of John Birch Society White Nationalist extremists brought local government to it's knees and watched our city burn. No local press ever acknowledged the extremist right wing connections of the Saha Family or even White Nationalist and JBS Chapter member Pat Sellers. 

Eight years later the Chester County Republican Committee is saturated with right wing extremists.

Tuesday, March 11, 2014

Poor Coatesville, the 1/2 Black Town that was Manipulated by a White Nationalist JBS Chapter Member

I like talking to people I meet. But what do you say to a guy with a huge swastika tattoo?

I like talking to people. I can find something good or beautiful in everyone I meet. And I've met some nasty people. What do you say to a guy with a huge swastika tattoo? "Nice Ancient Greek symbol you got there"?

Maybe what you say is the same kinds of things you say to non-threatening people. Talk about the weather, maybe he’s got a cool wristwatch. Pretty soon you might know more stuff about him than you want to. And he might come out of the isolation of his white supremacist world for a little while.

It was the time when the Crips, Bloods & MS-13 were pouring into Coatesville looking for a piece of the action in a town where the PD was decimated by a new city council & city manager & unqualified PD chief.

I looked for any new gang graffiti when I drove across the east side Coatesville bridge.

A kid, maybe 20 years old was shivering at a bus stop just across the bridge. It's across the street from Coatesville Area High School and on the same side of the street as a Methadone clinic. It was cold, about 40 degrees. He was shivering because he was shirtless. He had a large maybe 8-inch across swastika tattoo in the middle of his chest. He might have seemed frightening to some people. But he looked vulnerable and scared to me.

I wonder what kind of life is ahead for the big swastika tattoo kid. Would he have the swastika removed? Or would he add to them like this guy:

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Police Officer Shot by ‘Career Criminal’ White Supremacist

by Bill Morlin

August 12, 2016


An undercover investigation by a Pennsylvania State Trooper led to the arrest and conviction of a white supremacist cell that planned to bomb the Peach Bottom Nuclear Reactor. 

"In addition to the anonymous trooper, whose name is not being released because of his undercover status at a Chester County state police barracks, West Goshen Detective Sgt. Gregory Stone and Coatesville Detective Martin Quinn were recognized for their investigative work that led to the guilty pleas or convictions of a number of violent local criminals. 

 'The local police and local prosecutors are and must be the first line of defense in defeating crime in Chester County," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas P. Hogan Jr. "Chester County residents are incredibly lucky to have such good police officers taking care of them on a day-to-day basis.'... 

 Hogan said the white supremacist cell was meeting on a regular basis in western Chester County -- in the Honey Brook and Parkesburg areas -- as well as over the border into Lancaster County for years before their arrests in 2002. 

 'The frightening thing about Hull is not just that he hates people because of their race and not just that he wants to be violent, but that he’s teaching people how to hate and how to be violent,' said Hogan. 'He’s telling people how to make bombs, where to put them and where they’ll do the most damage." 

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Local police receive awards 

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Saturday, April 18, 2009You may walk by them at the mall, on the street or at a "Tea Party"..

There's a new movie this summer. It's kind of prescient, considering the explosion of white supremacist groups in mainstream politics.  It's about an undercover FBI agent in a white supremacist organization.

It's like the undercover PA State Police investigation of that led to the arrest and conviction of white supremacist David Wayne Hull in Parkesburg, PA in 2009.

"My dad's from Northern Ireland — he grew up during the Troubles. I grew up with an awareness that terrorists come from everywhere and have all sorts of motivations, and so it seemed like that was a very relevant thing," Radcliffe recently told Business Insider before a TimesTalks event to promote "Imperium," which is out on August 19. "But I don't think either of us envisaged that white supremacy might take this sort of bizarre jag toward the mainstream or rather that the mainstream might jag toward that by the time it came out." 

Instead, Ragussis said that a feeling of victimization and oppression is "the seed" of totalitarian movements that is "far more prerequisite of it than a figure like Mussolini or Hitler."  

Radcliffe told Business Insider that, in the process of making the film, he decided that talking to people on the fringes of politics is the most important way to move forward:  

"Somebody's life who prior to that had no meaning suddenly feels like they are engaged in something meaningful, and I think my biggest takeaway from this film is that, as much as we want to demonize these people and in a way demonize their views, we should try and find a way of getting them into this conversation, unfortunately as awful as that sounds, because the more you ostracize them and aggressively dismiss them, the more it just plays into their worldview that everything is a conspiracy against them."  

Ragussis, who joined Radcliffe in an interview with Business Insider, agreed, saying that catchall terms like "monster" aren't helpful.  

"They don't give you any access as to the mechanism that's going on there and why the people are behaving the way they are," Ragussis said. "I think if you're going to try to dismantle that or change it, you have to understand what's going on and what's happening."

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