Ben Rhodes is the Studs Terkel of writers who write about the rise of authoritarian governments. AFTER THE FALL - THE RISE OF AUTHORITARIANISM IN THE WORLD WE MADE

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"Ben is a writer, political commentator, former Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications and Speech Writing under President Obama. He also co-hosts the internationally acclaimed Pod Save the World podcast, along with former White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vittorio. Ben’s latest book is called After the Fall: Being American in the World We've Made."

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Ben Rhodes on the Global Rise of Authoritarianism November 8, 2021

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